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woodman 01-01-2009 10:03 AM

Somebody stole wood from my place.
 
I was out of town for a few days. I got back yesterday and noticed someone had pulled a truck up to my wood pile and helped themselves. They left tire tracks in the snow. This is the second time this has happened. Someone took close to a rick of wood a few years back. It wasn't stacked this time so I don't know how much they took off the pile. I feel violated. It isn't loosing the wood that hurts...hell, I'll cut more or get some from the sawmill, but just the fact that someone would do this to me makes me hopping mad and I am now determined that it shall never happen again.

Now, what to do..

mtnman 01-01-2009 10:09 AM

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Strategically placed (to catch the tag number) motion controlled game cameras. They work great, just make sure it's hidden. Then set the trap with some nice, easy to haul/load firewood.

phideaux 01-01-2009 10:15 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by woodman (Post 1490390)
I was out of town for a few days. I got back yesterday and noticed someone had pulled a truck up to my wood pile and helped themselves. They left tire tracks in the snow. This is the second time this has happened. Someone took close to a rick of wood a few years back. It wasn't stacked this time so I don't know how much they took off the pile. I feel violated. It isn't loosing the wood that hurts...hell, I'll cut more or get some from the sawmill, but just the fact that someone would do this to me makes me hopping mad and I am now determined that it shall never happen again.

Now, what to do..


Maybe call the sheriff? Maybe the wood bandit is striking other victims, too.

elroy 01-01-2009 10:17 AM

Re: Somebody stole wood from my place.
 
Put the wood inside an electric fence?

Make the property more inaccesible? Gates or barriers.

Skorp 01-01-2009 10:23 AM

Re: Somebody stole wood from my place.
 
hollow out a few of the logs and put some mild explosives in the middle of them. Of course it may hurt other family members of the thief.

gasilat 01-01-2009 10:26 AM

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sorry to hear about that...

i grew up at a time and in a location we didn't lock our house whether we were home or not...

when i grew up and left the homestead and moved into an apartment in the nearest town someone walked into my unlocked place when i was gone and cleaned me out...

that was "the end of an innocence"

....
the homestead

Between The Wheels 01-01-2009 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Skorp (Post 1490422)
hollow out a few of the logs and put some mild explosives in the middle of them. Of course it may hurt other family members of the thief.

That or a substance which makes a godawful lingering stink when burned. It might not be for their personal use, they may be reselling the wood.

etc 01-01-2009 10:30 AM

Re: Somebody stole wood from my place.
 
It's a collapse of society. Things just will be getting worse.

That and gas stealing and catalystic converter theft.

Next: Food.

Tallships 01-01-2009 11:18 AM

Re: Somebody stole wood from my place.
 
Mill out the center of a log and fill it with something bad. If you dont want it to be deadly, you could fill it with sulfur. You could maybe even fill it with colored smoke bombs and look for the chimney that is pouring purple smoke. Also, where the tire tracks are at, you could put spiked boards in the ground so that their tires will rapidly deflate when they park next to your pile. If money is no object, put a GPS tracker in the log, and you will know everywhere the log goes and when.


http://www.pimall.com/nais/tracking.html

Zusn 01-01-2009 11:34 AM

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I don't know where you live, but I'm picturing a long, rural driveway. Maybe next time you leave the house, a nice spike strip strung across the driveway might make for an expensive wood haul. The ultimate would be a property fence to keep any vehicles from getting near it. And of course the obligatory threatening sign, i.e. "You take my wood, I take your life" or "I don't dial 911, I dial 357" or something like that. Make sure it's hand painted, much more effective.

Hugo Chavez 01-01-2009 11:42 AM

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Make a note of where the tire tracks are and place spikes of some sort near the pile. If you get the hollow ones the cops use he should be sitting on flats before he is loaded. Heck, he may even come to your door asking for help!!

--You gotta catch him in the act or he'll just say he's coming for a cup of sugar for his Wheaties.

That or a tiger trap (pit). :O

Catwagon 01-01-2009 11:45 AM

Re: Somebody stole wood from my place.
 
Mtnman has the best suggestion IMO. You get the fellow's DL number and face on the camera and then they can throw him in the clink. Sure, he may get out later, but I bet he'll move on to a less supervised wood pile next time.

If you go putting anything into the wood then that wood is useless to you and him both wasting your time and effort to even put it up. Plus, if it's ever stolen and sold then the sulphur (or whatever) might cause a house fire and you may kill innocent folks or kids that wern't even guilty of taking the wood.

Just go for the thief, pictures don't lie in court.

Maddie 01-01-2009 11:47 AM

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Get a couple of game cams and position them so that they'll give you the vehicle and license plate. Make sure the cams aren't too obviously visible or your thieves might just take the cams, too. If you can catch them on film, you have proof for the police.

If it were me, I'd probably also spike the drive in front of the woodpile (I'd probably dig pits and fill them with punji sticks, too, but my husband has more sense than me and would make me fill them in...).

Atahualpa 01-01-2009 11:52 AM

Re: Somebody stole wood from my place.
 
Invest in good fencing. Catching somebody is secondary, preventing them is primary.

Twisted Avatar 01-01-2009 12:35 PM

Re: Somebody stole wood from my place.
 
Sorry about your troubles.........

I dont know the logistics of your area but did you tell somebody you where stepping out of town??

And Tire spikes really would help.

T

G.Gordon 01-01-2009 01:01 PM

Re: Somebody stole wood from my place.
 
Game camera is good. Except it won't stop a thief, only help catch one. I'm reminded of how the railroads spray paint lines down the sides of piles of railroad ties. This won't stop a thief either, but somehow seems to deter them, because it makes it obvious when something has been removed. Cheap and simple and worth a try if you do nothing else.

I keep my firewood hidden from public view and far enough from the driveway that it will be a lot of work to steal. Drawback is that it's harder for me to access as well.

Another idea is a locking gate across your driveway. Keep everyone out.

argentos 01-01-2009 01:14 PM

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A friend of mine who lives near Bristol, England awoke one night and found some b*****s were trying to steal his gates. Mind you they were posh wrought-iron jobs.

Discharging a 12-bore in their general vicinity staggered them a bit and they left sharpish.

90%RealMoney 01-01-2009 01:27 PM

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I have a fire road that splits my property. My neighbors that live below me (1/4 mile or so) have an easment to use that road. Only one of them does so, and it doesn't bother me. What does bother me is that riff raff like to use it as a dumping ground! There is a dishwasher still sitting there that some A-hole dumped 2 weeks ago. If I ever see anyone doing this, I'm going to drive over and block their exit, and wait for the Sheriff to arrive. People are such scumbags!

nub 01-01-2009 01:30 PM

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How much wood from woodman did the would be wood snatcher snatch if the wood snatcher did snatch wood from the stack where the snatched wood stood
To catch a would be wood snatcher is what woodman would if he could,
some prints by the wood where the wood snatcher stood will help whilst searching the hood, for the would be wood snatcher who snatched the wood from the stack where the snatched wood stood.

Dirty lazy bastard! blow his nuts of if you catch him :s10:

blueice 01-01-2009 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by nub (Post 1490566)
How much wood from woodman did the would be wood snatcher snatch if the wood snatcher did snatch wood from the stack where the snatched wood stood
To catch a would be wood snatcher is what woodman would if he could,
some prints by the wood where the wood snatcher stood will help whilst searching the hood, for the would be wood snatcher who snatched the wood from the stack where the snatched wood stood.

Best post of the new year, Your Nubship!!:haha::haha::haha::haha:

:signs14:, Woodman, but :479:.

Tn...Andy 01-01-2009 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Atahualpa (Post 1490496)
Invest in good fencing. Catching somebody is secondary, preventing them is primary.

Best answer of thread so far.

If you live in a rural ( or even certain suburban ) location, and don't have a gated entrance, you are simply asking to get taken, IMHO.....and the further back from the road your house, barn, shop, wood pile is, the more likely you are to get robbed. The old "drive up to the house and ask if 'Bill Smith' lives here" routine is quite common...is someone home ? Yes....leave after fake question....No...kick in front door.

By the same token, almost ANY simple gate will deter most thieves be most of them are scared to start with, and lazy to boot. They will seek other, less security aware locations.

Double you security with a few motion triggered lights. Put up a fake exterior camera (s) housing pointing at your driveway....who knows but you it isn't ACTUALLY a real system.

A GREAT system is the MURS Driveway alert by Dakota Alert....you can set up multiple sensors, it's wireless, good for several miles from transmitters to base unit, the base unit has a set of contacts for engaging a relay that will turn on a light automatically ( like someone is home and heard a car pull in the drive ), etc.

I went from no gate and lots of "tourists" when I first move here, to electric gate ( garage door remotes ), driveway sensors, automatic lights, and other unmentioned layers of security today.

oldmansmith 01-01-2009 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Tn...Andy (Post 1490581)
By the same token, almost ANY simple gate will deter most thieves be most of them are scared to start with, and lazy to boot. They will seek other, less security aware locations.

I live near the road and have an 8 foot wooden fence and gate. Even when the gate is open, the parking is hidden from view so one can never tell if anyone is home or not. If you come in, you have to turn around or back out onto a blind curve. Nobody comes in.

LukeNM 01-01-2009 02:11 PM

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You better get used to it -- why should you have firewood and others not?

90%RealMoney 01-01-2009 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by LukeNM (Post 1490598)
You better get used to it -- why should you have firewood and others not?

Man, I hope your post is tongue in cheek!

Ralleia 01-01-2009 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 90%RealMoney (Post 1490605)
Man, I hope your post is tongue in cheek!

Course it was! All goes back to spreading the wealth, like our Prez-Elect says!

Hugo Chavez 01-01-2009 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by LukeNM (Post 1490598)
You better get used to it -- why should you have firewood and others not?

The prevailing mentality and will be the norm when TSHTF. ANYTHING is justifiable when hunger/survival is a factor. Your hoard is theirs type of thing. Fair or not, right or wrong expect it.

Don't be surprised when LEO's escort people onto your land to get some wood when TSHTF. It'll happen if they know it's there.

90%RealMoney 01-01-2009 02:46 PM

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I guess the "Have Nots" will be expecting others to spread the wealth. However, when you resort to outright theft, the "Have's" are going to be more willing to spread a nice pattern of lead!

Twisted Avatar 01-01-2009 03:37 PM

Re: Somebody stole wood from my place.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by argentos (Post 1490555)
A friend of mine who lives near Bristol, England awoke one night and found some b*****s were trying to steal his gates. Mind you they were posh wrought-iron jobs.

Discharging a 12-bore in their general vicinity staggered them a bit and they left sharpish.


Wait a minute ........ you mean to tell me the theives didnt come back latter with the Bobbies to ID your friend as the culprit and have him jailed for life??

You mean someone was allowed to actually DEFEND there property?? In ENGLAND???

I am shocked I tell you..... absolutely shocked!!!


T

mick silver 01-01-2009 03:39 PM

Re: Somebody stole wood from my place.
 
i bet it some one you know ,

Twisted Avatar 01-01-2009 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Hugo Chavez (Post 1490620)
The prevailing mentality and will be the norm when TSHTF. ANYTHING is justifiable when hunger/survival is a factor. Your hoard is theirs type of thing. Fair or not, right or wrong expect it.

.

Yeah........ I got something for that.

Since they want the wood.....I got a few more things to give them as well with it.

I feel quite Generous with the last of my provisons for me and my loved ones.


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woodman 01-01-2009 03:55 PM

Re: Somebody stole wood from my place.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mick silver (Post 1490670)
i bet it some one you know ,

Yes, I think so too. I only told a few people that I was leaving town. I have a good idea who it was and they will not get any sympathy from me again. If you help people, certain ones take it as a sign of weakness.

woodman 01-01-2009 03:58 PM

Re: Somebody stole wood from my place.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nub (Post 1490566)
How much wood from woodman did the would be wood snatcher snatch if the wood snatcher did snatch wood from the stack where the snatched wood stood
To catch a would be wood snatcher is what woodman would if he could,
some prints by the wood where the wood snatcher stood will help whilst searching the hood, for the would be wood snatcher who snatched the wood from the stack where the snatched wood stood.

Dirty lazy bastard! blow his nuts of if you catch him :s10:

Funny as hell! Thanks for cheering me up.

mnfarmer 01-01-2009 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 90%RealMoney (Post 1490564)
. What does bother me is that riff raff like to use it as a dumping ground! There is a dishwasher still sitting there that some A-hole dumped 2 weeks ago.

This happens often near my in-laws home. The land happens to be owned by the county park system. One day when Pa-In-Law was talking to the park rangers, they told him that they get the serial numbers off of the appliances and check the registration! Mind you, I never register my stuff, as I'm sure many GIMmers do not. There are lots of people out there who do, though, and you might get lucky. Then they can pay a nice fine for littering!

Yasumi 01-01-2009 04:04 PM

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This may have been a new year's gift still in progress... next time you go out to your woodpile, you'll find it graced with a two-ton chainsaw sculpture of dogs playing poker.

mick silver 01-01-2009 04:09 PM

Re: Somebody stole wood from my place.
 
tell the people who knew you were gone , an tell them you have to go out of town again in a few day , hide your car an wait an see . but say nothing of the wood being gone

Cassius 01-01-2009 04:10 PM

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Sad thing is, if someone really needed a little firewood to provide heat for their family, I doubt a person on this forum would hesitate to charitably give a few logs if they would but knock on our door and ask humbly and politely...

<SLV> 01-01-2009 04:12 PM

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*** NOTE ***

Get out there and photograph the tire tracks before they degrade. This will help as evidence and also will help you to identify if it is more than one thief.

Twisted Avatar 01-01-2009 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by woodman (Post 1490686)
Yes, I think so too. I only told a few people that I was leaving town. I have a good idea who it was and they will not get any sympathy from me again. If you help people, certain ones take it as a sign of weakness.

There it is .........

You see what happens when you take a person into your confidence and are Good to them?? That same person turns around and strikes you in the back like a Viper.

This REALLY touched a raw nerve in me: The reason Why I am Losing My house in Jersey today (Hell hole or not) is because I was foolish enough not to learn my lesson after the first attack and had to be struck "multiple times" by diffrent Vipers. Now...... the wound is MORTAL.

But dont worry......is all good.

My Momma would always tell me: BEFORE YOU LEAVE AWAY FROM THIS PLACE YOU ARE GOING TO "SQUARE UP YOUR BUSINESS" WITH ALL THE PEOPLE YOU OWE ........and so, it must be.

And when they come back(cause they always do)......when that withered hand is reaching out for help.....when the Viper that struck you returns beggin for your mercy. Let them be given in return what they gave in kind:

NOTHING BUT SCORN AND ASHES FOR THEM.

T

Publico, Pro Se 01-01-2009 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by mnfarmer (Post 1490697)
This happens often near my in-laws home. The land happens to be owned by the county park system. One day when Pa-In-Law was talking to the park rangers, they told him that they get the serial numbers off of the appliances and check the registration! Mind you, I never register my stuff, as I'm sure many GIMmers do not. There are lots of people out there who do, though, and you might get lucky. Then they can pay a nice fine for littering!

About 20 years ago the cops pulled dozens of cars out of a quarry pond. Amazingly most of the cars had the keys in the ignition. Every owner contacted told the cops they had a hide-a-key magnetic box and the car thief must have found the hide-a-key to steal their car before dumping it in the pond.

"Yes officer, I recognize that old washing machine but I give it away about 5 years ago."

Use hidden cameras to catch the fly dumpers. Where I'm at the cops announced they were doing it at a couple of secret locations.

argentos 01-01-2009 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1490668)
Wait a minute ........ you mean to tell me the theives didnt come back latter with the Bobbies to ID your friend as the culprit and have him jailed for life??

You mean someone was allowed to actually DEFEND there property?? In ENGLAND???

I am shocked I tell you..... absolutely shocked!!!


T


The thieves would rather not encourage Mr Plod to make connections between themselves and other metal thefts.

The householder would not wish to draw attention to the matter of the discharge of a shotgun in the vicinity of a public road.

If anyone had been hurt to the extent of needing medical attention the result would have been dire for my pal, never mind the chap needing the medical attention.

Twisted Avatar 01-01-2009 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by argentos (Post 1490854)
The thieves would rather not encourage Mr Plod to make connections between themselves and other metal thefts.

The householder would not wish to draw attention to the matter of the discharge of a shotgun in the vicinity of a public road.

If anyone had been hurt to the extent of needing medical attention the result would have been dire for my pal, never mind the chap needing the medical attention.


Ah........ Now it makes sense.

Being that these were CAREER CRIMINALS they actually had alot to lose.(Didnt think about that)

Now if these where just some run of the mill blokes looking for drug money your buddy would have been in world of hurt courtesy of Bobbies.

As Always.....

argentos 01-01-2009 07:48 PM

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These were big gates, big enough for a lorry to go through when opened and very heavy.

Tbh I don't think many run-of-the-mill druggies would have the skill or the equipment to make off with a dirty great pair of wrought-iron gates, when there's plenty of tellies and dvd machines to be had! :no_ma:

Hugo Chavez 01-01-2009 07:51 PM

Re: Somebody stole wood from my place.
 
You realize that your constant "loose lips" (your words) has likely been enough to put you away... if the man ever gets around to it. The "click click" you hear will more likely be the cell door locking before you hear the zip zip of Bubba your cellmate getting ready for a round of TA.

This isn't a free country anymore. You should be more careful on the internet.

--Just saying...

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Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1490676)
Yeah........ I got something for that.

Since they want the wood.....I got a few more things to give them as well with it.

I feel quite Generous with the last of my provisons for me and my loved ones.


MorganTheGoat 01-01-2009 08:05 PM

Re: Somebody stole wood from my place.
 
Something that would spray paint all over the thieves truck would be cool.

Atahualpa 01-01-2009 08:31 PM

Re: Somebody stole wood from my place.
 
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Originally Posted by argentos (Post 1490555)
A friend of mine who lives near Bristol, England awoke one night and found some b*****s were trying to steal his gates. Mind you they were posh wrought-iron jobs.

A pair of artisan made wrought-iron gates are worth mucho denaro. I know a blacksmith in my area that made a wrought-iron gate for a winery entrance that cost many thousands of dollars. This gate had grape wines across it with leaves and bunches of grapes forged out of iron...he even made a bird nest in the vine with eggs in the nest...and a baby bird breaking out of one of the eggs.

The winery became so paranoid that the gate would get stolen that they moved it into the winery for display...and had a welded steel gate put up in its place.

Darkside 01-01-2009 08:36 PM

Re: Somebody stole wood from my place.
 
Maybe next time setup a decoy pile of wood and seed it with a large group of brown recluse spiders.

Tallships 01-01-2009 08:42 PM

Re: Somebody stole wood from my place.
 
Or put some poison ivy logs in there.

Nighthawk 01-02-2009 07:16 AM

Re: Somebody stole wood from my place.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Skorp (Post 1490422)
hollow out a few of the logs and put some mild explosives in the middle of them. Of course it may hurt other family members of the thief.

I agree. :tongue_ma:

qatarman1969 01-02-2009 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Skorp (Post 1490422)
hollow out a few of the logs and put some mild explosives in the middle of them. Of course it may hurt other family members of the thief.

Bad idea...regardless of whether the wood was stolen or not, this will get you thrown in jail for assault, attempted murder, or whatever else the guy's lawyer can come up with.

Mtnman's suggestion is best. Get the guy's license #, then turn him over to the police for theft.

kiwi_envoy 01-02-2009 07:27 AM

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Just a thought...dig a trench across the front of the wood pile, enuf to swallow the tires up past the axle and place some tin over the hole with some dirt to make it safe enuf for folks but not for a truck.

Then the trap is set.

If they manage to knick the wood and get away with it after dragging the truck from the hole then my guess is they will NEVER come back.

If TSHTF the cops wont give a scraggly baboons butt about yer wood pile.

Zusn 01-02-2009 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkside (Post 1491012)
Maybe next time setup a decoy pile of wood and seed it with a large group of brown recluse spiders.

LOL. I can only imagine the things that can go wrong with that plan.

des00s 01-02-2009 03:24 PM

Re: Somebody stole wood from my place.
 
Maybe they were stolen by Skunk Ape?

flash91 01-02-2009 04:25 PM

Re: Somebody stole wood from my place.
 
Spray the wood with paint only visible with UV paint, then go visit your neighbors (bring holiday oranges or such)

Flashlight on thier woodpile or truck should locate the thief.

latemetal 01-02-2009 09:17 PM

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A few carefully marked pieces of wood scented with fox urine should be enough, only careful witch wood you use.:bear_tongue:

Minimus 01-02-2009 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Tallships (Post 1490462)
Mill out the center of a log and fill it with something bad. If you dont want it to be deadly, you could fill it with sulfur. You could maybe even fill it with colored smoke bombs and look for the chimney that is pouring purple smoke. Also, where the tire tracks are at, you could put spiked boards in the ground so that their tires will rapidly deflate when they park next to your pile. If money is no object, put a GPS tracker in the log, and you will know everywhere the log goes and when.


http://www.pimall.com/nais/tracking.html



How about spiking a log with a pound of FFFG powder .... ?

mick silver 01-02-2009 11:05 PM

Re: Somebody stole wood from my place.
 
i know who got the wood for a few bucks i well tell you all

Tallships 01-03-2009 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Minimus (Post 1492549)
How about spiking a log with a pound of FFFG powder .... ?


thats just a bit over the top for me.:565:

Waylon 01-06-2009 11:34 PM

Re: Somebody stole wood from my place.
 
Hello? Get some Dogs ... mean ones.

Many thieves are scared of dogs (and some for good reason).

It works for junk yards and it will work for your yard too.

woodman 01-07-2009 03:12 AM

Re: Somebody stole wood from my place.
 
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Originally Posted by Waylon (Post 1499124)
Hello? Get some Dogs ... mean ones.

Many thieves are scared of dogs (and some for good reason).

It works for junk yards and it will work for your yard too.

It would be nice to have a couple of 'take no shit' dogs. I'd hate to have someone innocent get bitten which I'm sure would happen. Dogs like this are notoriously viscious to both freind and foe. I don't want any kids bitten. If I was able to effectively fence the yard off then I might entertain the thought of viscious dogs. For now I will follow the game cam advice.

Tn...Andy 01-07-2009 06:50 AM

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And the next time, you'll be missing firewood AND a game camera.

Get a gate.


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